Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
pretty beautiful process. I mean, I've seen it up close, and it's
amazing how people can transform around death when we avoid
it, and we're taught to avoid it.
TRIP: For sure. We had as beautiful man drop the body this past
week, John Hartley, and he had a beautiful send off from his
friends who gathered around, and he was watching the sun rise as
he dropped his body, and people were drumming. I think it was a
beautiful send off and then there was a wonderful gathering in
town over the weekend that was very moving, and I think uplifting
for a number of people.
So in the '70s in New York, you were a prolific and driven artist,
after a while you came to the understanding that your art was
limiting you, and you described that art as a false God. I'm
curious, why was art for you in the '70s a false God, but today it's
become such a beautiful expression of your higher self?
JERRY WENNSTROM: Well it gets back to what I was saying
about the place where it doesn't matter. I think anything can
become a false God, and the gods are going to demand their pound
of flesh. Like I have a friend who fiercely spent his life making
money as if it were the one thing that was going to save him, and
now later in his life, it's all coming undone, and he's being sued,
and his money is going out his window. And I think that's the
ultimate end to false Gods, and I had a sense of that. I had a sense
that art for me, even though the whole world was making a great
fuss about what I was doing, for me personally it became that false
God. I didn't know who I was, and so I was here this shield
against non-existence, which was this idea of an artist, and I was
good at what I did, and I was driven, but now I do it because it's as
natural as everything else in my life. And I had to get to that place,
it's the same with marriage, I had to get to the place where I could
let it in a way that was natural.
TRIP: Okay, so here's something that I wanted you to clarify. You
recognize that your art was not a substitute for life itself, and so
you decided to destroy your art and give everything away and
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