Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
the Wizard has an unbelievable like array. My God [Laughs]. He's
got more going on than you… oh my gosh, kidneys, livers, backs, I
mean he's got a table top full of stuff that he does, it's just
unbelievable. But my question for the two of you and you can
answer this any way you want is that I know that the Wizard
doesn't have a normal kind of day where he's awake all day, and
then he goes to bed, like I do, and gets refreshed by sleeping. He
actually has a kind of transcendental meditation that he does often
all night long that for the Wizard is just as restful as or more
restful than sleep. And I wanted to know maybe the two of you
could comment on that, because a lot of people including myself as
we begin to age, sleeping isn't necessarily as restful as it used to
be. And perhaps there's another way for people to be refreshed.
Do you have anything you want to offer on that?
WIZARD: For myself, when I lay down I get dreamy, it's like stuff
rolls up to my head, and if I'm vertical and going to the dreamless
sleep state, but yet one is still aware through that; it's just as good
if not better than horizontal sleep. It's extremely peaceful and the
time just zips. It's nice.
TRIP: How about you, Ramana?
A. RAMANA: Well, it's kind of interesting. Since returning from
India this time I have not slept in my bed. I have a very
comfortable and large reclining chair, and I just like my recliner,
it's comfortable. And for whatever, I don't know a particular
reason for it; I really don't sleep much anymore. I do and I don't.
I sleep when I feel like it. My schedule now is much different than
it used to be.
Now back in the early days of AHAM, when Elizabeth and I
worked in putting together AHAM, serving people, who came here,
and she did most of that kind of work, but my work was just the
consciousness aspect of it. And I used to work on the computer
about eight hours a day, and writing the manuals, and the training
material and so forth for our conscious curriculum that we offer
here, in how to live, how to awaken into the pure awareness of
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