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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages this is when he got really honest with me and with himself. What was really happening was like you said, it was fear, and it was more specifically what he was faced with was his inability to control another human being, his inability to control all this moment. And what started to appear was just feeling of helplessness, of weakness, of what's wrong with me, why can't I do it. And then all of these images, so he had this image of himself as a father, good strong man, strong father, in the moment he felt like a helpless child. In the face of his children, he felt like a little baby unable to control this moment, unable to control his children. But then what he was faced with was failure of these images, like failed father. This was when you really get down to the basic stuff; this is like the nitty gritty stuff, failed images, failed father, failed man. I mean that's what he was coming up against really, failed human being at its root really, and a failed human being. I failed to… this total feeling of helplessness. And that's when he lashed out was when he felt the most helpless, that's when he lashed out at his children in order for a moment just to get some relief, to feel powerful. So that's where the seeking was, in a way he wasn't allowing himself just to feel what he felt, which was in that moment the Truth was he just felt helpful. So what we did in the retreat was just to find the place where, just in that moment, could that be okay; all these feelings in himself that basically through his whole life had never been okay. No one had ever told him that it might just be okay to feel helpless for a moment. No one had ever pointed that out, because who talks about this stuff really; and discovering that it was actually okay to feel helpless in the face of his children. And then somehow he was able to have a more authentic relationship with them, without pretending to be strong father, strong man, getting angry, it wasn't working. If it was working it would have been great, but it wasn't working. And he was losing contact with his kids he was losing the connection, he was losing because he was performing to himself and to them, pretending to be the strong father, when he didn't feel like that. WIZARD: The situation itself was a teaching. 272
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages JEFF FOSTER: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely! TRIP: Jeff, once again we've managed to use up a completely wonderful hour. We have about maybe two or three more minutes. We've got about three minutes and we have a question in from a listener, I think it's Rona Wallace, she wants to know what you think about the label Neo-Advaita, the direct/progressive paths, etc. This question keeps coming up for her. We only have about a minute to answer that question and then hopefully you can mention anything we may have overlooked that you'd like to share in the last two minutes, then we have to go in about three. JEFF FOSTER: what, Advaita, Neo-Advaita, I don't know, that label, I don't know… you can't categorize this teaching, you can call it Advaita, call it Neo, I don't really know what this teaching is. You can't capture Truth in a system, we're talking about life as the teaching, not Advaita or Neo-Advaita, you won't find it in books, books are beautiful, teachings are personal teachings and they're all beautiful but in the end, like as the Wizard said, life is the teaching, this moment is the teaching, the situation is the teaching, that's the real guru. And you meet your guru over and over again in ever thought, in every sensation, in your kids, in your mother, in your father, in your friend, in everyone you meet, the guru is everywhere, and it's just… can we see it, can we open our eyes to the guru which is everywhere. I don't know. WIZARD: In all forms, all words. JEFF FOSTER: Everything. WIZARD: Everything. TRIP: So, Jeff, thank you so much. Quickly, what's the next opportunity; it's over in Europe to hang out with you? TRIP: Half lunatic, half sage. WIZARD: I believe Jeff's mantra is laughter. 273
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