Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
don't know why I want to make this distinction, but haven't you
been gifted something, and I think the Wizard has been given a
gift and I feel I've been given a gift although sometimes the gift
that I've been given doesn't make its appearance. Sometimes I'm
completely forgetful of the gift. But haven't you been given this
gift of appreciation for that ability to see that the ocean are these
transitory waves that are making their appearance, and to be
deeply comforted by that and to be in the flow of that? It's a gift
that people that come to your Satsang aren't either feeling it, or
haven't been given it. I mean, isn't it a little disingenuous maybe
to say that there's nothing to be "acquired" if you will? I mean,
there's an appreciation almost like a fine wine, it's almost like you
take our history classes so that when you go to the museum you
can understand the complexity and the beauty that's in the
paintings. You might learn like all of the things that led up to this
3D way of painting, or whatever. What do you think about that?
JEFF FOSTER: I agree with you. It's a fine line in a way because I
don't see this as an achievement of mine, it's not something that
Jeff has obtained. In a way I used to see it like that. Years ago I
used to feel really puff up, and, yes, I've made it. And there was
arrogance to it. I don't know that I'm enlightened or I've reached
the pinnacle. That's in a way what I want to get away from,
because I realize that was just more, from my own experience, that
was just more telling stories about me. At the same time, of
course, you're absolutely right, although in a way this is not an
achievement, at the same time of course it's grace, life is a total gift
in each and every moment it's so… I mean, there are no words for
it really. At this point I find it very difficult to talk. It's like how do
you even begin to talk about the preciousness of this moment?
So it's funny, because I used to have a big problem with the word,
teacher, and maybe that was because of my background. I never
had a teacher myself you see in a way. In a way I always thought
life was my teacher. It wasn't any particular individual within life,
it was life, in a way every thought, every sensation, every feeling is
my teacher. So it's funny when I started to talk and do the
meetings, I was very eager to make it clear that I wasn't a teacher.
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