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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

part of it too. So we just sing, I'm just like a bird singing, we're all<br />

just birds singing our songs, so we sing to each other, or we don't.<br />

[Laughs].<br />

WIZARD: Leaves rustling in the wind.<br />

TRIP: Did you hear the <strong>Wizard</strong>, like leaves rustling in the wind.<br />

So you seem comfortable, I mean it's miraculous the words just do<br />

keep coming, but you're not feeling anxious there when you're in<br />

front of the 200 people, you're pretty relaxed and you're okay <strong>with</strong><br />

moments where the words don't come I take it. Has it always been<br />

like that for you?<br />

JEFF FOSTER: Yes. I've had quite a bit of experience, well it's<br />

only a few years of experience, but I guess I have done quite a few<br />

meetings now. No, it hasn't always been like that. When I did my<br />

first meeting a few years ago, I think it was three or four years ago,<br />

it wasn't natural for me to speak in public. I mean I was always<br />

like growing up as a kid, and like a teenager and my early 20s, I<br />

was quite intensely private, intensely shy, intensely self-conscious.<br />

So it didn't come naturally to me as a character to get in front of<br />

people and speak. So that was mysterious as well.<br />

Years ago when I found myself saying yes to an invitation to talk,<br />

that was unexpected [Laughing]. That's not something that Jeff<br />

does. But then again, you can't really ever say anything about<br />

yourself like that, you can't really ever say well that's not me. How<br />

can you really say that? All you can really say is I'm not willing to<br />

do that; I'm not willing to experience that. But I guess what<br />

happened years ago is I just became more and more willing to<br />

experience anything really. More willing to experience pain,<br />

experience fear, experience all the stuff that we call negative, but<br />

it's not really negative. We just call it negatives and we try and<br />

escape it and think the positive, but really when you really face the<br />

present experience, you find there's really nothing negative in it,<br />

it's just energy, it's stuff moving, it's energy moving.<br />

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