Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
with people, everybody was left there with an ah-ha moment. You
looked down at your watch and you had like three more hours to
go. And my ego went from contempt to pity at that point.
[Laughing]
JEFF FOSTER: Oh, dear.
TRIP: All right. I've got a lot of questions for you today. How do
you sit in a room with 200 people and talk for two straight hours,
that's one question I have for you?
JEFF FOSTER: Well, I tend to lose track of time actually. What I
find is I just sit there and wait, as you said, I don't go in with any
idea really of what to say, or there is no real agenda. I mean, if I'm
honest, this is true, what happens is I sit there and actually what
I'm thinking to myself is I don't know, I don't know what to say . I
don't know what this is, this is a total Mystery to me, this life. Like
at the Science and Nonduality Conference I'm sitting there going, I
don't know what nonduality is. I can tell you what I've read about
nonduality, I can tell you some thoughts about nonduality, I could
tell you stories about nonduality. I could tell you what I knew
yesterday about nonduality. But right Now in a way it's always, it's
like a living question; it's not really a question that can be
answered, what is nonduality. It’s a living question. It's a
question to live with rather than to answer. Yes, what is this? I
don't know.
And in a way that's where it all begins, I don't know. In a way
that's what I do in a meeting. I just sit there in that not knowing,
and then words come. I guess on the deepest level it's known that
I can't talk about this, I'm not an authority. I can't be an authority
on life, I can't be an authority on nonduality, or whatever we're
calling it today, nonduality, oneness, I mean there are so many
words. And what I find is words start to come, talking happens,
and although ultimately you can't put this into words. I guess part
of the joy of it is speaking, talking, with others, and sharing
something that really, as you said, it's so intimate really, it's so
intimate and so present that it doesn't need words but words are
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