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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages to do anything but that? [Laughs] I mean, it's not all I do all day long, but when I have the occasion to do it, it's just the most wonderful thing. And people are very amenable; they're dying for this. TRIP: I don't really have a question here for you, but I'm going to go into a subject area that you could share, but you have a wonderful relationship with your husband, Peter. JAN FRAZIER: Yes, my partner. TRIP: It's a very sexual juicy relationship, and you don't shy away, you don't have a graphic book here or whatever, but you don't shy away from what a beautiful, wonderful, touchy-feely, warm, sensual relationship you have with him, and how at times the two of you just completely disappear and merge as one. I don't know, would you like to comment on the potential of a relationship as a mirror into that which here seems to be, although in some ways he doesn't take the interest in the same way that you do, or maybe he does, but he has a different way of looking at it than you do. Do you have anything to say, share, about your relationship? JAN FRAZIER: I think about this and talking about my relationship, I'd like to talk about the larger thing which I think is what is of interest if I'm understanding you right. And this is very much of interest to me that often people tend to think that the socalled spiritual life is apart from the physical, from pleasure, or from just a regular human life. I don't think they're at odds at all. I mean, love between partners does have a physical expression and, everything else we do as people; hunger, physical activity, dance, sex, sleep, sickness, everything we do is some form, expression, manifestation, of the larger reality. And so there's a dance that takes place between any two people that are in any kind of a relationship, but including the one between lovers, that of course it's going to have physical stuff in it too. And when love is in the picture, when there's a very deep love in the picture, and even for just one of the people if love no longer has attachment or the need to make anything be different from what it is, then it's the most 250
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages wonderful expression that love can have. So one of the forms that that will take of course is in the physical, and I do think when some people awaken that it makes it difficult for their relationship, and I think it depends on what the relationship has been like before. But ours adapted wonderfully. TRIP: Yes, congratulations. Well, we've come to the end of another perfectly good hour, as they say of our talk. WIZARD: That was fast. TRIP: Jan, thank you so much, you've been a wonderful guest and we really appreciate your time with us today. JAN FRAZIER: Thank you both. WIZARD: Jan, you're right on, those who share with you are blessed indeed. JAN FRAZIER: Thank you, John. TRIP: Thanks so much. JAN FRAZIER: Take care. TRIP: Bye. JAN FRAZIER: Bye. 251
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WIZARD: Amen. Conversations with Av
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