Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
or whatever. But how is that evolved for you now? I mean, you
have these Satsang with folks, and they want to share this
beautiful awakened realization or whatever that you have, how do
you feel about that now?
JAN FRAZIER: Well I'm going to revisit the thing I just said in a
way, because if the only thing that's real when I'm sitting with
somebody is what's happening right Now, and I do think
sometimes… well, the thing that people want they already have,
they just don't know it. It's purely a matter of perception. And so
it's in this moment that I'm with them, I'm in that presence, and it
really is everywhere always, and it really is inherent to us all, and
then the other person suddenly feels that very deep peace in
themselves, then the thing has happened. The whole question of is
it going to last, or is this the real thing, again you're in the mind
again. So to me, I mean I've stopped with the wanting to give it as
if it's a thing to give, and then a thing for somebody to keep. To
me all of my attention goes onto allowing it to be here, getting out
of its way, then other people's sense of getting out of its way in
them Self. So to me that's the whole thing, and the rest is really
peripheral in the realm of thinking, which is the apparent
problem. So I avoided your question.
TRIP: No, that's good.
WIZARD: That's right on.
JAN FRAZIER: To me the question isn't the thing anymore. I'm
sorry, John, what were you going to say?
WIZARD: It's right on. You're going to have a wonderful class,
not to delve into the future, but…
JAN FRAZIER: It is a wonderful way to be with people. Oh, my
God, I mean to be with a roomful of people, or one other person,
that knows this about themselves, or will take the slightest excuse
or opportunity or anything to allow it, to be in it, and feel it, and
look in the other person's eyes. I mean, why would anybody want
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