Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
JAN FRAZIER: And, I'd add something to that, or maybe delete
those and say something else instead now [Laughs]. In fact I'm
about to be meeting on an ongoing basis with a small group of
people who are wishing for this, and there was discussion about
what to call this group, and someone said it should be an
awakening group. And I said, "No, I think it's almost the very best
thing you can do is get your mind off of awakening". Because it
really is about being in the present, and so often when people
think they want to wake up, they think they have that yearning or
they want to find a teacher or a practice or something, or they
think they have to wait for the retreat that's coming up. And I
almost wish to say to somebody that has that deep yearning to say,
there isn't anything but right Now, and there just is not ever going
to be anything but right Now, and bring all your awareness to be
that. When you really stop believing in time, I mean when you
stop experiencing that time is a real thing, and you're left with
nothing but right Now, and then the whole thing of desire doesn't
have any place to hang its hat. And of course that is in the
moment, in the present really is where awakening happens.
WIZARD: Yes, Now is sentience, Now is what we are. I mean,
who can deny that?
JAN FRAZIER: Yes!
JAN FRAZIER: And I've seen so many people in such pain, the
longing that's been there, and they thought well I want this to
happen and this is how I think it could come about so I'm going to
do this. And that whole thing as a set up to stay stuck in the mind,
and that's the apparent problem in the first place.
WIZARD: Yes, the mind is insentient.
TRIP: So in the book, what came up over and over again was you
had a deep seated desire to give this blessing that you were just
thrilled by, you had this desire to give it to others, or share it with
others, but if you could, you would give it to everybody, okay. And
that came up over and over again, this desire to share it, or give it,
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