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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Wow, I didn't expect to get such a wonderful story. That's<br />

fantastic.<br />

WIZARD: It's beautiful, yes.<br />

TRIP: I hope that gives listeners a sense of it, and certainly I<br />

certainly get it. That was fantastic. You were given, well let me ask<br />

you another question, Arunachala is the sacred mountain in<br />

Tiruvannamalai, and it’s considered one of the most sacred places<br />

in India, and there's an ancient temple there in the town, and<br />

pilgrims circumambulate it once a month. I visited there once<br />

<strong>with</strong> the <strong>Wizard</strong>, and it was so easy to experience the sacred in that<br />

place, it was just palpably sacred. And my question for both of you<br />

is what is it that makes certain places and things seemingly more<br />

sacred or so sacred, more sacred it seems than others, when we<br />

know that everything is sacred even the ordinary is sacred. Why is<br />

it that we are able to experience the sacred in certain places and<br />

things so readily, and not in others? What is it about those places?<br />

<strong>The</strong>n finally, given that why should we pay homage to a specific<br />

place, a specific sacred place? Is it useful to us to do that, or is<br />

more useful to see the sacred in everything all the time? I'll open<br />

that up to my two resident wizards here.<br />

WIZARD: You want me to take a stab at it?<br />

TRIP: All right, go ahead.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> driving volition behind the perception of divinity is<br />

Faith. So when so many people for so many thousands of years<br />

bring their Faith to a particular place, it quickens the Shakti, or the<br />

form to break open to peace. It's like the form is the mother and<br />

you go there and the form itself puts you into the heart of the<br />

father. And the mountain represents Shiva, that formless aspect<br />

that Ramana was enticing us to join in.<br />

And it's a symbol that's solid, it's immoveable, it’s got all the<br />

metaphors about it, it embraces the home. Vision transcends the<br />

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