Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
And I think one thing that actually happens, and I've watched this
in people around me, sometimes when somebody has a significant
shift, because of that clarity they feel like now they know
everything, and it's almost like, I think it can happen that because
we have this lifelong pattern of wanting to think we know, or
having a set of ideas that we can make reference to that feel
reliable, then when awakening happens, I think sometimes just
because that pattern is there, there can be a tendency to want to
trade the old ideas for a whole bunch of new ones. And I did that
to some extent, and maybe I still do it. But there's just been a lot
of letting go of that whole thing, the needing to know anything,
and it's very restful.
WIZARD: Right, that's very well said.
WIZARD: This is a good conversation.
JAN FRAZIER: I'm enjoying it.
WIZARD: This is very real and honest.
TRIP: Okay. There's so many things that you say that are just so
fresh for me that I love. For example, here's one, you say, "Ego
was everything that interferes with my awareness of the deeper
reality". I love that.
JAN FRAZIER: Ego, okay.
TRIP: As everything that interferes with your awareness of the
deeper reality. That was cool.
JAN FRAZIER: Yes, yes.
TRIP: And then as far as what somebody can do to enjoy this
fabulous awakening or awareness that you enjoy, there's only two
things someone can do, and I agree with that, you say it's to yearn,
to yearn for it, and to be in the company of one so established.
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