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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages actually being experienced right now. And nothing that we ever figured out outside of the right Now is really going to inform how this Now is being experienced. We can only go so far with it, that's all, of course it's interesting. I talk and think about it, and write about it all the time, but it's just in a particular category of usefulness and it is limited. TRIP: At one time you wanted to say to people, and I did too, you wanted to say, you can have this, look at me, this is possible for you, it's your birthright, wish for it, just ask, ask big. Do you still want to say that to people? JAN FRAZIER: I've learned not to. [Laughter] TRIP: Me too. Oh yes, baby, I learned it the last little gathering we had, I'm zipper lipped now. I am zippered. JAN FRAZIER: Yes. I mean, there are times of course I still want to but I know… I've had people get angry with me because they've said, "Well, I've been asking big for decades and nothing's happened". It was the ebullience of the person, who would just come into a miracle, and to me it was all-obvious, and it's like you were saying before about choice, if it's not obvious to you, then it's not obvious. And somebody else saying it, me saying it, or insisting on it, or you insisting on it, it's just not going to help somebody. WIZARD: It's just buffoonery. JAN FRAZIER: Yes. But I do think, and this is the situation in which I occasionally give in to that impulse, I do think there are lots of people around who suspect, who think, like they've had a little taste of this, or they've had a hunch that there's more going on. So sometimes I think that they just need like a little tiny nudge of a gentle fingertip pushing them to say, yes, go for it, you're on to something. I mean, for some people it's just so, it's got that too good to be true feeling, and I do think once in a while for some 242
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages people just to say, it's not too good to be true, maybe it could make a difference for somebody but I'm careful about that. WIZARD: Yes, the ears to hear come by grace, and once you have the ears to hear, you've had that taste then the work that you and others do, which is the voice of the voiceless, affirm and help establish others in this fellowship or the Satsang. And that's where what is called the Dharma takes over and our actions are not inhabited by doership, they're just happening. And so there's no contrivance, and our Dharma is the voice of voiceless and it does affirm, whether we intend for it to or not, it does affirm in apparent others, and it's miraculous, it's amazing grace. JAN FRAZIER: Yes. WIZARD: How it comes to be. TRIP: Well, now I'm feeling that rascal today, I am a rascal. WIZARD: Yes, go for it. TRIP: Okay, well here's something that I think is true of you and Jan and then you guys can put me, get me straight here. WIZARD: Okay, yes, no problem. TRIP: Guys get me straight on this, okay. You're always talking about the vertical and the horizontal paradigm, Wizard, in the horizontal paradigm there's a lot of stuff and it's a story line that the mind likes. WIZARD: Yesterday and tomorrow. TRIP: It's all the crap, yes. Both you and Jan have a tremendous amount of affection for, and again I don't think this is not something that invalidates being present or what have you, but you have a tremendous… the closest you come to being invested in that horizontal paradigm storyline is when you get all like bleary- 243
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WIZARD: Be still. Conversations wit
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WIZARD: Amen. Conversations with Av
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