Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
actually being experienced right now. And nothing that we ever
figured out outside of the right Now is really going to inform how
this Now is being experienced.
We can only go so far with it, that's all, of course it's interesting. I
talk and think about it, and write about it all the time, but it's just
in a particular category of usefulness and it is limited.
TRIP: At one time you wanted to say to people, and I did too, you
wanted to say, you can have this, look at me, this is possible for
you, it's your birthright, wish for it, just ask, ask big. Do you still
want to say that to people?
JAN FRAZIER: I've learned not to. [Laughter]
TRIP: Me too. Oh yes, baby, I learned it the last little gathering we
had, I'm zipper lipped now. I am zippered.
JAN FRAZIER: Yes. I mean, there are times of course I still want
to but I know… I've had people get angry with me because they've
said, "Well, I've been asking big for decades and nothing's
happened". It was the ebullience of the person, who would just
come into a miracle, and to me it was all-obvious, and it's like you
were saying before about choice, if it's not obvious to you, then it's
not obvious. And somebody else saying it, me saying it, or
insisting on it, or you insisting on it, it's just not going to help
somebody.
WIZARD: It's just buffoonery.
JAN FRAZIER: Yes. But I do think, and this is the situation in
which I occasionally give in to that impulse, I do think there are
lots of people around who suspect, who think, like they've had a
little taste of this, or they've had a hunch that there's more going
on. So sometimes I think that they just need like a little tiny nudge
of a gentle fingertip pushing them to say, yes, go for it, you're on to
something. I mean, for some people it's just so, it's got that too
good to be true feeling, and I do think once in a while for some
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