Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
freedom, for them to notice where they do or don't experience
choice, even just that is really illuminating.
TRIP: I guess what I'm getting from this discussion is that I
personally have been invested in these hard and fast rules of
nondual reality, if you will, where the ambiguity of choice making
its appearance or not hasn't really been something I've been
interested in pursuing. My mind's wanted to say, okay, I've got no
choice, or there is choice, what I'm saying, always black and white
one way or the other, but maybe it's just ambiguous, I don't know.
But for three years I've been trying to pin our guests down on this
issue of choice, and I don't know, I don't know what the answer is.
WIZARD: It's apparent choice.
TRIP: Apparent choice.
JAN FRAZIER: Yes.
WIZARD: The nature of the I-thought, or the nature of the mind,
the biological mind itself is insentient. And it's playing within the
theatre of sentience, which is still, indivisible, and seamless. And
sentience is dispassionate, and the mind by its very nature is a
bifurcating machine.
JAN FRAZIER: [Laughs] that’s a great image there. Yes.
WIZARD: And so it's not the tool, it's not the girder in the bridge
to the unknown; the girder in the bridge to the unknown is
sentience itself, or what we call the heart, the sense of existence
itself. And trying to think your way into the unknown [Laughs],
that’s an oxymoron. It's unthinkable.
JAN FRAZIER: And also even looking at the question of choice, I
mean and all this conversation about is there really choice, or what
happened in a particular life, it's all just really blah, blah, blah in
the mind that wants to understand the stuff. I mean you could say
it's useful in a way, but nothing is ever as useful as how is it
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