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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

increasing your awareness of what you're actually going through<br />

right now, and seeing that there are multiple steps here. And as<br />

soon as you see it you can choose differently right at that moment.<br />

I mean, probably you'll have to watch this over and over again<br />

many times, before you can actually experience choice expressing<br />

itself in a real living moment, but it does start to happen. I've<br />

heard people report on this over and over again.<br />

WIZARD: Yes, the sentient being is dispassionate, and it's<br />

observant of the apparent choice going on. And when the primacy<br />

of existence is the mind then it's caught up in choice, when the<br />

primacy of existence itself is immaculate sentience, that's the<br />

movie screen, and it stays immaculate regardless of the movie.<br />

JAN FRAZIER: Yes. Even when there are those choices or nonchoices<br />

going on that is there.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> movie keeps on, yes.<br />

JAN FRAZIER: Yes. I think one thing about really being in the<br />

present moment, and this is true whether somebody has had the<br />

big shift or not, I think in any moment in which somebody is really<br />

fully present and non-resisting, the experience, you mentioned the<br />

word nonduality a bit ago, Trip, a moment in which a person<br />

experiences yielding presence, they experience whatever's<br />

happening as being them. I mean, to me that is what nonduality<br />

does, how we experience it in living life, but there is no distance<br />

between me and what's happening, it's all just the Now, or the<br />

moment, or reality.<br />

And so the whole question of choice in a way is that, the choice I've<br />

been talking about to react or not, is nonsensical, there isn't<br />

anybody. Because I'm not in opposition to the moment, whatever<br />

the moment holds, or what we think of as the content of the<br />

moment, I don't feel any need to orient to it at all. I am the<br />

moment, and so I don't go around experiencing that I have choice<br />

all the time, I'm only just now noticing this. But I think for people<br />

that are really trying to become more Self aware and feel more<br />

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