Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
TRIP: I just thought it was interesting because I read a lot of
books, and I thought a bit about how you're able to pull that off.
And one reason is the poetic nature of your prose, you really do
write very poetically, and it melts into the prose here and there. I
think that's one reason. You take some creative license in jumping
backward and forward through time, which unsettles the timeline
there, which has perhaps a way of putting us more in a present
moment that we might normally be if we were time bound by a
timeline. And you ask these questions, when you get up into those
places in your book where, you're hitting up against the absolute,
and words aren't going to work, you flip over and you ask a
question, but seemingly can't be answered but then you go ahead
and answer it with poetry. That's very interesting.
JAN FRAZIER: Ha, I just like to hear your observations [Laughs].
Yes, I appreciate that.
WIZARD: What's an example?
TRIP: Oh, boy, well it's all over her book here. Do you have your
book with you, by the way?
JAN FRAZIER: Oh, not right in front of me, no. I could get it.
TRIP: Well I can't think of an example for a moment, and I didn't
commit all the examples to memory but I'll give you an example of
a poem that you didn't write, but you cited it, it's a poem by Gerard
Manley Hopkins on page 24 of your book.
JAN FRAZIER: Yes.
TRIP: And maybe you chose this poem in part because in many
ways it's similar to your poetry I found, it's almost
indistinguishable from the way you write, maybe that's why you
like it. So I don't have an example of her poetry, but I'll read you
Gerard Manley Hopkins. He said, Oh Lord, crush me and crush
me, make me fragrant with my own transmuted suffering, make
me into an intoxicating juice that I sit by the fire and sip. Let the
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