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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: This is as real as it gets.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Actually always one of my touchstones that I use for<br />

years in terms of assessing other people's teachings was what the<br />

price tag was, and actually if there was a price tag then the<br />

teaching wasn't worth whatever they were charging. <strong>The</strong> more<br />

expensive it was the less it was worth.<br />

WIZARD: What do you think about books?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: Oh, books are different.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Yes, it's another problem. I know it's my vice; I<br />

don't have any problems <strong>with</strong> that. But…<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: <strong>The</strong> books are printed and many people are<br />

working on that.<br />

TRIP: It takes money to make it, right?<br />

WIZARD: I've held off publishing my book,<br />

PAUL NAGY: Which one?<br />

WIZARD: Wisdom's Soft Whisper, and later <strong>The</strong> Human Gospel<br />

of Ramana Maharshi.<br />

TRIP: So is there anything that you would like to share, Ilona, we<br />

love you madly, you're the quintessential avant-<strong>garde</strong> sage.<br />

WIZARD: Yes.<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: Okay, I want to share something <strong>with</strong><br />

everyone. People think for yourself, don't follow, why follow, it's<br />

been long enough, it's time to start using that tool inside the brain,<br />

the thinking, and first thing you need to think, where do thoughts<br />

come from? Is there a thinker? That would be the starting<br />

question. That's it. Thank you very much.<br />

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