Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
PAUL NAGY: It is good news; you want to share the good news. I
know how to get drunk without drinking.
TRIP: Yes, right, exactly.
PAUL NAGY: I know how to get drunk without thinking, and
there's no hangover.
TRIP: I go to parties and I get a little over excited which has
turned a few people off, but for me like some esoteric realization is
really not all that important. What's really important is how my
life has changed since I woke up; and how much more delicious it
is and how I have a sense of peace within myself, etc. I was just
curious if you could share some of the changes that have taken
place in you over the last year?
ILONA CIUNATE: In my life? Wow. Yes, of course. Well I
stopped crying, stopped feeling sorry for myself [Laughs]. Yes,
stopped complaining in my head about other people. One of the
biggest changes is I don't fight with my husband anymore, first I
just dropped the need to be right, and dropped the need to argue,
and he was upset about this of course. But he got used to it now,
and he's much happier as well, even though he hasn't realized that
there is no separate being in him. But it is way much more peace
in our house. As of external changes I got out of 10 years of
working for somebody else and opened my own studio, so that is
freedom as well. We moved to a bigger house and nice garden, so
really settled in and it's all really just like falling into place
constantly. So that gives that feeling of effortlessness, of freedom.
Way much less thoughts about stuff that doesn't really need to be
thought about, that's for sure.
WIZARD: Lao Tzu says the less we do the more things that need to
be done, are accomplished.
PAUL NAGY: Yes, I have a number of ex-girlfriends that I'm going
to invite to look at your website. [Laughing]
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