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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

ILONA CIUNATE: A strange place, that Lithuania, I ran away<br />

from there.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Is there a ground wakening in the UK?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: I think it is picking up hugely, just seeing<br />

conversations in Facebook, it's so different than it used to be like a<br />

year ago. Not so much resistance anymore, it's more sharing and<br />

openness. Yes, a lot of people from the UK.<br />

WIZARD: Jeff Foster's from the UK.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Actually a group that I know of that's been<br />

promoting in a secular sense of nonduality has just had its 40th<br />

anniversary, it's up in the UK, and it is called Beshara. Beshara<br />

Foundation, it's in the borders up in Scotland. Beshara<br />

Foundation, all you have to do is look them up. <strong>The</strong>y did have a<br />

magazine out once, but that was probably so many years ago that<br />

it was probably before you got to the UK.<br />

TRIP: I won't say it over the air, but how do I get in touch <strong>with</strong><br />

you, via email, or through your website?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: If you go on my blog, there is email there.<br />

TRIP: Okay.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Liberation Unleashed reminds me of one of my<br />

favorite poems I wrote called My Mind is like a barking dog, and I<br />

just remember, "liberation unleashed, that's my dog barking in the<br />

yard at itself, going bark, bark, bark".<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: Wow, that's us, we barking loud enough that<br />

we're on your radio, yeah.<br />

TRIP: Okay. One of the things that I'm interested by or one of the<br />

things that I like to tell people, I'm a bit of an evangelist I guess, is<br />

that how you say it. I got to parties and I can't help myself.<br />

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