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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: So what happens, happens of its own volition.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Well that almost doesn't make any sense. What<br />

happens, happens.<br />

WIZARD: What happens, happens, in the east they call the<br />

happening Shakti and they call the domain that we're referring to<br />

as Now.<br />

PAUL NAGY: Shakti or grace.<br />

WIZARD: So it's the formless because the Now is formless. And<br />

then the form plays <strong>with</strong>in the formless, and it borrows its<br />

sentience, it reflects sentience, so we confuse what we see in life<br />

when it's just reflecting the sentience of Now.<br />

TRIP: Hey, Ilona, I want to ask you, because we don't talk to<br />

people from overseas all that much, particularly like there are a lot<br />

of people in the UK that are into this, but what country are you<br />

from again?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: Lithuania.<br />

TRIP: So your merry little band of revelers, you're in a typically<br />

religious traditional culture there, right?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: No, not really. I don't think so.<br />

TRIP: So is there like a ground wave of awake, is there a big<br />

movement afoot there?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: In Lithuania? I have no idea, because I'm<br />

here. What are they doing there, I don't know.<br />

TRIP: Where are you?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: I'm in the UK, England.<br />

TRIP: In the UK, okay. You're from Lithuania.<br />

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