Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
consciousness. And there are scientists now who are looking at
these brain scans and they are saying, yes, we're seeing something
and it may have something to do with consciousness, but is it
consciousness that we're looking at, and they're saying, we don't
know yet.
The thing is... is that thought is a tool that can be used
constructively or it can be used destructively. I'm perfectly happy
with people who learn how not to believe their thoughts, because
thoughts were never meant to be believed. Believing your
thoughts is one of the weirdness’s that happens in our culture, and
we have to grow out of it, to become mature. It doesn't mean you
have to give up thought, but you just have to put it in its place. It's
a tool, as a tool it works to a certain level and it doesn't work
anywhere else. A person who understands nonduality let's say, for
instance, doesn't have to abandon their mind or abandon thought,
in fact they can use their sense of nonduality as an inner corrective
of how they're thinking. It can help them not believe their
thoughts. Whereas somebody who doesn't know that may have a
more difficult time in terms of using their mind effectively; and so
for all the way down the line in terms of athleticism.
WIZARD: Yes, the thought process is from a biological mind
that's bifurcating, it divides everything as you were saying earlier,
that it's right or wrong, yes, no, left, right, and then every one of
those thoughts bifurcates and another one of those thoughts
bifurcates. And it's never ending until you've got this massive
bundle of thoughts called the mind that obstructs the native vision
that what we are is the Now, itself; and Now is that sentience; this
is what I was hearing you say earlier. And the release crossing that
line brings us into the present moment. And the present moment
requires no thought for its sentience, and sentience is that very
sense of existence itself, this nondual, there's no second, there's no
other. And it's the constant and it's still, and I think you're spot on
with it. And you come across very refreshing, because it's not
something you got from a book, or teaching, it's something
through self-observation that you became aware of. And the
greatest sages who have been the greatest teachers have come
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