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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

around. So there is this feeling inside that everything should be<br />

the way I want, and if it's not the way I want then that means it's<br />

wrong. And if it is the way I want, it's not enough, and then the<br />

judge inside always looks at the instant situations of people and<br />

always decides is it not enough, or is it wrong, should they protect,<br />

defend, argue. It's like a little virus, I can say, this judging thing.<br />

Gradually for me it felt I don't judge anymore, I don't think what<br />

should be tomorrow like, what will be wrong if that happens, or<br />

what in the past happened that was really bad. <strong>The</strong>se thoughts fell<br />

off, so the judge is really connected to the I-thought, where the I is<br />

the central mechanism that decides how you should live your life.<br />

Because if you don't live like that, like the I wants, it's wrong, it<br />

should be fought, it should be judged, and it should be the way I<br />

wants. And this is how people live their life.<br />

WIZARD: Beautiful, beautiful.<br />

PAUL NAGY: I want to chime here a little bit. Often people<br />

confuse what's called conscience which is one's actual moral<br />

compass of what is best for one's self and for others. This blaming<br />

sense of conversation that you may have in yourself, which is an<br />

aspect, a worry, or a judgment, which is actually what Freud<br />

meant when he talked about the super ego; it's part of the ego and<br />

so it's job is to basically repeat over and over again judgments<br />

about yourself that you've incorporated through your experience<br />

habitually. <strong>The</strong>y're not the same, and actually one of the insights,<br />

because one thing is the conscience in the original meaning of the<br />

term, which means consciousness, does represent a moral<br />

compass, a thing in which allows sympathy for the suffering of<br />

others. It's not necessarily crowded up <strong>with</strong> thoughts, judgments,<br />

preconceptions, or worry about what other people would think<br />

were, or how other people might judge you.<br />

WIZARD: So is a dream consciousness?<br />

ILONA CIUNATE: Yes.<br />

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