Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
ILONA CIUNATE: I've no idea to be honest; it did fall into my lap.
One day I've got a blog and it was called marked eternal, I didn't
think of that really to be honest. Yes. So I really did not care
about a name at the time, and it was just carrying on writing stuff,
which is why much more important than what's the name of it. I
can say maybe to do something with tattoos, but that would be
creating a story about it, the fact is I got it with the name. So that's
it, I don't know what that means.
TRIP: Well that's fine. Okay, now one of the people on your blog
spot, it was a gentleman whose name I can't recall, but he was
talking about the difference between classical liberation and
liberation unleashed. Is there some difference between what you
think people would perceive as classical liberation, and the
liberation that you're offering, the method that you have?
ILONA CIUNATE: Okay. We're focusing on a single moment,
crossing that gateless gate. We call that liberation because that
word is quite common and people know what we're talking about,
we can say its enlightenment. Of course, it's just as word pointing
to something, and it's like a word that calls deep inside people to
come here. Once they come here, and once they cross the line,
then the word liberation transforms and it becomes something
completely different, it's not the end, it's not the complete
liberation that normally people expect. And in a classical way it's a
complete freedom, this is the beginning of the complete freedom.
So the word liberation we just call that moment, that conversation,
where the things happen. And I'm really not very well educated in
classical enlightenment, and Advaita, or any other groups and
theories. I don't know much, I only know how to make that click
in human thinking.
TRIP: Well you're fortunate [Laughs]. None of us here, except for
Paul, are very well educated, he's read up on everything, but the
rest of us here are…
PAUL NAGY: And you probably haven't missed much, don't allow
anybody to put you down about that.
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