Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
friends on our unleashed group on Facebook, and it's about 140
people there now. They are the ones that work with us, I don't
know, 30 or 40. Everyone does whatever they can; it's not like a
set program, some work online, some work offline and doing
Satsang. So it's a great little movement which is enlarging, and it's
really nice to see that.
WIZARD: Tell me about this line?
ILONA CIUNATE: The line, well the gateless gate, everyone's
heard this term, and we can use other words like liberation,
enlightenment, and seeing no self, seeing the reality. But it's all
that little line that doesn't exist from once you cross it you don't
see it anymore, because there is no one crossing. But if you are a
searcher, and if you're searching for like 30 or 40 years, there is
always that line to cross, there is something always there, the
carrot dangling at the end that you need to reach, that it's not
enough.
So once you actually cross that little line, and you see that it never
existed, that's it, you see as it is, and not as you imagine it to be.
And this is not the end in any way, it's just the beginning. And
sometimes people get confused saying that, yes; you crossed the
line, that's it, finished. It's not, nothing like it. It's a beginning,
you start living authentic life, so you start seeing your own
uniqueness. It's a brilliant moment to watch, and so amazing to
help somebody to see the Truth, it gives such a nice connection,
and, you change somebody's life from desperate sometimes, to
wow, I can relax now. It's a joke, all the search is a joke. Yes.
TRIP: Yes, right on.
WIZARD: We're with you, we're right with you. Your journey has
begun when it's over.
ILONA CIUNATE: Yes.
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