Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
WIZARD: Oh, don't be nervous now.
ILONA CIUNAITE: It's just excitement I guess, more than nerves.
WIZARD: It's just us.
TRIP: Yes, it's not a huge audience. We don't know how many
actually, but it's not like thousands [Laughs].
ILONA CIUNATE: Well I know lots of my friends are listening.
TRIP: They are? Okay. Well thank you so much. Now you…
ILONA CIUNATE: Yes.
TRIP: So it would appear that you are very passionate about giving
ordinary folks an avenue for liberation, right?
ILONA CIUNATE: Yes, that's right. Yes. It all fell on my lap, I
can say that. We found a way of how to help ordinary people see
the ordinary Truth that there is no self, there is no separate self.
And that's what we are working on with quite a large group of
volunteers at the moment.
WIZARD: All right!
ILONA CIUNATE: Yes, we joined from all over the world and
started a little movement, more and more people come and join,
and get liberated.
TRIP: So tell us about this group, when did it form, and how
many folks are participating in it?
ILONA CIUNATE: Okay. Well it started about a year ago, with
this Ruthless Truth forum, and we evolved from that. Our method
is completely different and kind, and that's how it started
Liberation Unleashed, it's a movement that helps people just cross
that line, exactly the line, this seeing itself. Quite a few of us now,
I can't tell exactly, everyone who crossed the line we have them as
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