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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

tradition or whatever, but the six accomplishments; control of the<br />

mind and emotions, control of the sense organs, restraining<br />

behaviour, responsibility, ability to do one's duty, patience and<br />

forbearance towards pairs of opposites such as heat and cold, trust<br />

in the words of the teacher and scriptures, ability to focus on a<br />

single object of mind, okay? Now, I can't disagree that the people<br />

that I've met that are able to do all of those things tend to be<br />

people that I admire and pay attention to, and are established in<br />

Truth. So I can't say that that's not a great thing to want to<br />

master. But these are not the practice of being; these are the<br />

practice of self-control. And I was just wondering, is there any<br />

evidence in your travels or journey, and is there any evidence that<br />

the mastery of these traits leads more quickly to liberation than<br />

simply paying really earnest attention to life and lessons that it<br />

inevitably delivers every single day?<br />

GREG GOODE: Those teachings, when I first heard that list,<br />

that's a list that's given in Advaita Vedanta as pre-requisites for<br />

successful metabolising of the Vedanta teachings. And when I first<br />

saw that list I thought, “Wow, that's really cool, you mean there's<br />

something beyond that? That's just the pre-requisite for<br />

enlightenment? That sounds like enlightenment itself.” I didn't<br />

know too much about it. What I think it's doing, I think that list<br />

has a function, and it's not that you can't get there <strong>with</strong>out it, it's<br />

that it lessens the probability of spiritual bypassing. So that it<br />

lessens the probability that you'll take the nondual goal and the<br />

nondual teaching and try to solve lower level issues <strong>with</strong> it.<br />

So let's say that's someone's cold and they don't have very much<br />

forbearance for being cold, and then the weather turns hot and<br />

they don't have very much forbearance towards being hot, and<br />

they learn a little bit about nonduality. So it's quite possible that a<br />

person will say, “Well, I can use nonduality in order to not be cold<br />

anymore.” I've known all kinds of people, I remember one person<br />

asked me, they wrote to me and asked me, they want me to be<br />

their philosophical nondual counsellor, and their presenting issue<br />

was: “I need to go to the dentist, can I do nondual inquiry<br />

instead?” [Laughs] Like “Can I make the pain go away by nondual<br />

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