Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
dream state completely, emote as though the things were
happening to this character, even this I'm aware of.” So the whole
thing you're aware of is a complete fabrication, yet it's absolutely
perfect.
WIZARD: And real, I mean, you look at the sun and it shines, and
the tree, you look at the leaf, and you know you’re dreaming, and
you can't remember where you're laying down dreaming, but it is
happening.
TRIP: That to me is incredibly instructive, way more than almost
anything else, the lucid dream.
GREG GOODE: Okay, but it's also more selective, not everybody
has that, and at least not everybody reports it. And what's good
about it, it leverages you out of the waking state, like your lucidity
in the dream leverages you out of the dream, and so you make an
analogy, “Ah, so then the wakening state is like that too!”
WIZARD: So we're doing that right now.
TRIP: Exactly. [Laughs]
WIZARD: This is the deep dream sleep and there's a hallucination
happening and is rolling.
TRIP: Right now.
GREG GOODE: Right, right.
TRIP: I want to ask you, I get a little charge here about
intellectuals, and to me calling somebody an intellectual is almost
like an insult, but that's just me, okay? But you’re a book smart
guy, and you've relaxed your inherently dualistic mind by reading
up on points that dexed it, and you give a list on your website of
different things that you could read up on if you were confused
about something, or vexed by something. I'm wondering have you
any advice for intellectuals who are everywhere in a nondual
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