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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: Was that a choice for Ramana himself, when he had the<br />

panic attack?<br />

TRIP: I don't know, but this is supposedly the only choice that we<br />

have. What do you think about that, Greg? I don't know.<br />

GREG GOODE: I think it's a rhetorical statement, something to<br />

encourage people to keep them from going totally nihilistic. On<br />

the face of it, if you look at the mechanics of choice, then there's<br />

nothing different about the choice to inquire versus the choice to<br />

do something else. Nothing that would make that particular<br />

choice any different. But if you didn't think you had that choice,<br />

and then you'd think that there'd be no choice whatsoever. And<br />

for people who feel there's no choice whatsoever, some people are<br />

liberated by the thought, and some people are depressed, and they<br />

feel like “What's the use of anything, why even get out of bed in the<br />

morning?”<br />

WIZARD: My own paradigm shift was choiceless.<br />

GREG GOODE: I'm sorry?<br />

WIZARD: For myself, just speaking for myself, the paradigm shift<br />

was like a synchronistic event, it was choiceless.<br />

GREG GOODE: Mine too; in fact, I also experienced choice itself<br />

as choiceless.<br />

WIZARD: Yes, yes.<br />

GREG GOODE: So, I think that Ramana didn't want to close the<br />

door altogether on the possibility of using inquiry to help<br />

themselves.<br />

TRIP: Well, I think, for me the answer to that choice, I'm<br />

comforted by the fact that I don't have any real choice. I'm one of<br />

those people that, you know, find it comforting, but I see my body<br />

as a mechanistic hologram that has feelings and it is running in<br />

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