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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: Elders in our society have been positioned in the minds<br />

of folks in rocking chairs, or in the care givers' place. <strong>The</strong>y should<br />

be repositioned. <strong>The</strong>re's a wisdom that can come <strong>with</strong> age, and it's<br />

not guaranteed, but wisdom when you run your course in the<br />

world, then what's left is the pursuit of Wisdom, or self<br />

realization, Self understanding. And you can go to a foreign<br />

country <strong>with</strong> no maps, or no anything, and bump yourself around,<br />

but you're not likely to find the good museums and things. So if<br />

you're someone that can point out a few pointers, you have<br />

Wisdom to share. For my own self it's been wonderful to have<br />

mentors, especially spiritual mentors in life, not a spiritual mentor<br />

that'll talk down to you, but one that will talk straight <strong>with</strong> you on<br />

a level of equality, and you feel the sincerity of it. <strong>The</strong> best are the<br />

ones that come naturally in the flow of life.<br />

TRIP: We've got a wiser elder on the line; let me pick him up right<br />

now. A. Ramana? Are you there?<br />

A. RAMANA: Yes.<br />

TRIP: All right.<br />

WIZARD: Hello, Ramana.<br />

A. RAMANA: Hello.<br />

TRIP: Thanks for joining us today; it's good to have you.<br />

A. RAMANA: Good to be <strong>with</strong> you.<br />

TRIP: A. Ramana, I know that you're a fantastic instructor, and<br />

we're right on the same page <strong>with</strong> you <strong>with</strong> the teachings, but I<br />

also know that you're an awakened person, and there are not all<br />

that many awakened people walking around. So I thought it<br />

would be more interesting for me today to tap into what that really<br />

kind of feels like in your moment to moment experience. And I<br />

don't really have a big game plan here on doing that, but among<br />

the things that I thought we might do today was that maybe you<br />

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