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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Well, then you're a nondual guy.<br />

TRIP: You just answered my question. Hey, let me ask you, this<br />

intrigued me, your nondual dinners <strong>with</strong> Francis Lucille, I just<br />

started imaging like how intensely interesting that must have<br />

been. Who hung out <strong>with</strong> you <strong>with</strong> the nondual dinners?<br />

GREG GOODE: Well, it started… <strong>The</strong> way I understand it is, it<br />

started <strong>with</strong> something like a salon, the European salon where<br />

people would come and have very educational highfaluting<br />

conversations. And it's something that Jean Klein and Francis did<br />

some times together, sometimes on their own in Europe when they<br />

were there. And so when Francis came (Jean Klein, I never met<br />

him), but when Francis Lucille came to the United States and he'd<br />

go to the different cities that would host him as a speaker, he<br />

would say, “Well, I might be here for a week, or a weekend, but<br />

outside of the nights that there are full of meetings, let's gather<br />

and have some ice cream or something, get some pizza, and we'll<br />

just talk.” So that’s nice. And so he would come to New York City<br />

about twice a year, and this is in the late '90s, going on to maybe<br />

2003. And then we just continued it when he wasn't there. And<br />

then it broke off into meetings that didn't require his particular<br />

presence or his particular teaching, or his particular influence, it<br />

went renegade in a way, so that anybody could talk about anything<br />

connected <strong>with</strong> nonduality. And it's been going on like that ever<br />

since those years. Sometimes we'd have them every week,<br />

sometimes we'd have them every month.<br />

Now we have a small group because we like to have a conversation<br />

that is not so big that it breaks up into two or three subconversations.<br />

And there's no focal point, there's no agreed-upon<br />

guru, or teacher, or agenda, it's just people having dinner and<br />

talking about nonduality.<br />

TRIP: And this is where?<br />

GREG GOODE: At a diner in New York City.<br />

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