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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

had that question, in addition to the spiritual questions he had, he<br />

also had that particular question.<br />

TRIP: That's interesting.<br />

GREG GOODE: Yes. And there are more and more people getting<br />

certification in this, and the way it is now you have to have at least<br />

a Masters in philosophy, and if you have a PhD in philosophy…<br />

Where are most of the people who have PhDs in philosophy?<br />

<strong>The</strong>y're usually teaching philosophy at universities or colleges. So<br />

the people who go to those people for help or counselling tend to<br />

be associated <strong>with</strong> universities most of the time. <strong>The</strong>y wouldn't<br />

search YouTube for nonduality. Enlightenment is not for them,<br />

not something they're looking for, they're just not thinking about<br />

that stuff. But I must say that out of all the people that have come<br />

my way, I'd say less than 2% are interested in those classic<br />

philosophical issues and most are interested in spiritual things.<br />

TRIP: Okay. So you have a deep training in both of these spheres<br />

in your own life in reflecting upon the dilemmas that present<br />

themselves to you, which do you call upon more directly? I mean,<br />

for me this ineffable Truth that we're talking about today is not<br />

something that can be known, however there are these logical<br />

consequences of this beautiful Truth that make it pretty easy to<br />

have a roadmap for living. For example, you would want to be<br />

present rather than having your mind wondering into the past and<br />

the future, and you would want to perhaps see what shows up in<br />

your life instead of overly planning and thinking that you can<br />

manage everything, and that sort of thing, right?<br />

GREG GOODE: Right, right, right.<br />

TRIP: Okay. So, which of these roadmaps do you find more useful<br />

to you? Is it a philosophical one or one <strong>with</strong> a spiritual basis in<br />

nondual reality?<br />

GREG GOODE: I actually don't follow a roadmap. [Laughs]<br />

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