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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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TRIP: Yes.<br />

<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

GREG GOODE: Like really as awareness that we don't suffer.<br />

WIZARD: So it's a dispassionate stance?<br />

GREG GOODE: I think it's a passionate stance, I think it helps to<br />

fall in love <strong>with</strong> awareness. <strong>The</strong>re are a lot of people for whom the<br />

whole awareness teachings just don't make a lot of sense, so they<br />

don't really have a lot to hook into <strong>with</strong> this teaching. But some<br />

people do, like they've had childhood experiences, or like<br />

intuitions of oneness or wholeness, and stuff like that. It's when<br />

they hear the awareness teachings it really resonates <strong>with</strong> them,<br />

and that pulls them in, as a sweetness which draws them in to a<br />

teaching. And so when they stand as awareness it's a passionate<br />

openhearted seeking of warmth, like a flower turning to the sun.<br />

So I wouldn't say dispassionate. Dispassionate to me sounds a<br />

little bit cold.<br />

WIZARD: Okay. What I would say would be affirmed.<br />

GREG GOODE: Yes, like that, there are people who try it, and<br />

when they are going by the logic of awareness, not much happens.<br />

And it's not a really useful teaching for a person whose only<br />

connection <strong>with</strong> awareness is a logical analysis.<br />

WIZARD: But it would be non-clingy?<br />

GREG GOODE: That's for sure. You're not clinging, you're not…<br />

what's the word I'm looking for? You're not desperate, you're not<br />

holding onto it <strong>with</strong> desperation. It is an open-armed orientation<br />

towards awareness, as though you're hugging it, and it's hugging<br />

you.<br />

TRIP: Agreed. And I've noticed that when I speak <strong>with</strong> friends, or<br />

I'm at gatherings, and I speak about nondual wisdom from the<br />

perspective of Trip, it always comes out sounding like a falsehood<br />

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