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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

miserable electrical bulb hanging from the ceiling. But I had no<br />

choice but to be there due to the cold waiting for my train, some<br />

people smelled like alcohol. Not the beautiful mountains and<br />

beautiful home I live in right now, and nevertheless there was this<br />

peace and this light was divine coming out of this bulb, and<br />

everything was at peace and beautiful. And I thought to myself,<br />

"Gee, two years ago you were so distracted, you couldn't have been<br />

standing there". Now there is beauty everywhere because it is my<br />

inner peace that is shining.<br />

WIZARD: Shall we have a question from Rona Wallace in British<br />

Columbia. Rona would like to know what Francis thinks about the<br />

traditional Advaita and Neo-Advaita controversy that seems to be<br />

prevalent. I've noticed in myself where there's a little put down<br />

between [Laughs] the newer schools of thought and the traditional<br />

Advaita. And so Rona would like to get your take on that.<br />

FRANCIS LUCILLE: Well, it's very difficult to talk about. <strong>The</strong><br />

problem I see, the potential problem I see, is that the difference<br />

between the traditional teaching perhaps and the Neo-Advaita is<br />

that in the traditional teaching there are two phases if you will,<br />

there is a phase of the awakening, and then there is the phase of<br />

getting established. In the awakening there is a radical<br />

transformation that takes place, but this transformation needs<br />

time and needs often the help of a spiritual friend to cement itself<br />

so that we can really enjoy the fruit which is happiness. <strong>The</strong> Neo-<br />

Advaita often at best remains at the first stage, at the glimpse of<br />

Truth or intellectual understanding.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> flower.<br />

FRANCIS LUCILLE: Exactly. <strong>The</strong> ripening of it, so we understand<br />

it after several years, hopefully. I know that <strong>with</strong>out the help of my<br />

teacher, and the 20-year association I had <strong>with</strong> him…<br />

WIZARD: So the flower falls away while the fruit is developing.<br />

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