Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
FRANCIS LUCILLE: Yes. But they teach yoga, and they don't
teach gymnastics, so there is always in them an element which
goes beyond the body always, nothing happens by chance in life. If
you get exposed to yoga, there is something. I remember when I
was 11 years old; I bought a book about yoga. I don't know why, I
went to this bookstore, I spent all my money, for three weeks I
couldn’t go to the movies, I spent all my entire allowance on this
hard cover book on yoga. And I practiced Hatha yoga for three
months then started thinking, there are no results. Well down the
road there were results in fact, nothing happens by chance.
WIZARD: So every action is perfect.
FRANCIS LUCILLE: Yes, anyway regarding yoga, there is Hatha
yoga and then there are other stages of dissolution, and they are
the ones that are interesting. What the yoga is about, you're going
for body and mind, not just the body, is to realign if you will the
way we perceive the body, and we perceive the world, in a way that
is consistent with the nondual reality.
When we perceive the world in ignorance, we see the world as the
non-me, and we see the body as the me, we draw a line in the air at
the surface of the skin which is a non-existing line in fact. Our
perceptions, the way we perceive the world, the sensations for
which we perceive the body, and the thought, they all appear in the
same place, in consciousness, there's a whole distance from
consciousness, so everything is given there in one single shot so to
speak. And that's our primary experience, that's our direct
experience, the view we had of the newborn child. So we can work,
if you will, towards rediscovering this childlike view of ourselves
and of the world, in which the world is the extension of our body
without separation. And that's an artistic view, a view of beauty,
and that's also a loving view because if the so-called other, as a
body, appears, his body and my body are one because the entire
universe is my body. You see, so it's an including view. We can
cultivate it, we can do exercises in which we feel that the body
expands into the entire volume or space of the room we are in, or
in which we feel that the space compliments the space which is the
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