Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
limited to one mind. So then, once conduct this investigation there
are likely to be questions and objections that come up, and that's
also an aspect which a spiritual friend may be helpful by helping
us sort out these objections in answering them.
But at the end, we reach a total certainty that we can never know
based upon our phenomenal experience. And then at that moment
we are free to conduct experiments that are based on the ultimate
possibility, that we are free to live as this consciousness -
unlimited, impersonal, unborn, you see, and that's OK. As we
begin to walk the walk, and not only think the thought, as we begin
to walk the walk, and to live in accordance with this ultimate
possibility, with the possibilities that this apparently simple and
limited consciousness is in fact divine, and universal, that the
magic comes into play, the revelation if you will. It is a living
revelation, it is not revealed once and for all, it is there for you
once and for all but it keeps revealing itself.
WIZARD: Yes.
TRIP: So what you're saying, is that somebody really needs to take
on a different assumption about who or what they are first, they
have to play with that, right?
FRANCIS LUCILLE: Yes, because you cannot live from a lie, you
cannot live from a belief. Our problem is that we believe to be
separate, limited, that’s what I call ignorance, I don't use the word
ego, and I use the word ignorance which is the belief that this
consciousness…
WIZARD: It's a belief.
FRANCIS LUCILLE: I, me, the extent of which is beyond a shadow
of a doubt that this, I, is limited, it's broadly-based, body
dependent.
WIZARD: So a belief of thoughts, just thoughts.
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