Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
but I think that there's a particularly pernicious attachment which is
the attachment that some people have for the outcomes of those
about whom they're concerned. And they will identify with those
others that they're concerned, and they will basically be willing to
go into any altercation or unpleasant behaviours, or whatever, like
defending the so-called rights of this other put upon group or what
have you. And isn't that a form of attachment too?
FRANCIS LUCILLE: Well, it depends whether the action is
accomplished from the vantage point of the separate individual, or
whether it is accomplished simply out of impersonal love,
intelligence, and a sense of beauty. So we cannot qualify an action
just by the nature of the action, we have to question whether there
is an attachment to the fruit of the action. If there is attachment to
the outcome, it's personal, and it comes from ignorance.
TRIP: Fair enough. A shift took place in you that takes place in a
person that's become established spiritually towards what we’ll call
objectless happiness. Can you describe what it's like to shift from
object driven happiness to objectless happiness?
FRANCIS LUCILLE: We have to realize that in fact the objects
don't bring about happiness. We have often experienced this: We
once went to a restaurant and it was such a nice experience. The
next year we go to the same place, because we intend to reproduce
the same experience using the same object. Alas, the chef has
changed, the management is different, and the food is disgusting.
Life never reproduces itself twice, identically, in order to teach us
that objects don't contain happiness. The recipes our
parents gave us for happiness, such as a valued diploma, a fancy
profession, the perfect companion, having children, a beautiful
house, a luxury car in the driveway, a comfortable retirement
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