Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
EM BE: We left our discourses, and sounding and feeling like
we've made great discoveries. It doesn't matter, it really does not
matter. What really matters are: are you happy; are you in peace,
and joy? And it's not something that you can adopt as a practice,
or you can make it happen, it is not. This illusion of the illusion is
what we are talking about, this illusion of the illusion, this illusion
waking up from the dream is of itself the unfolding of true nature
in its beauty, its unfathomable vastness and joy, and peace, and
transparency, and to embrace that leaves nothing un-embraced.
It's a living experience of its own, it's not really an experience, and
it is a living dimension. The words don't speak correctly to it. But
it's in the process of waking up fully, completely, to the
insubstantiality of the I-thought, is the unfolding of love, of
happiness, of joy, of Being.
TRIP: Yes, and Norio Kushi, who appeared on our show, just a
little while ago, and who's coming to the Onederful gathering,
which I understand that maybe you're coming to as well. He threw
in a comment, he's listening right now, and he talked about the
term inside-out as being hit in the head by the cosmic two by four.
He liked that, and Norio has got a whole way of looking at what he
calls the phantom self, the illusory I-thought. That's his whole
shtick. Norio, I don't want to sell you short there, but it's not your
whole shtick or whatever, but it's that simple.
WIZARD: Norio was just driving a truck and thinking stopped,
the I-thought was gone. And it stayed gone for a couple of weeks.
TRIP: So, Em Be, one of the great things about having this little
show is that we get to meet you, and we get to meet Norio, and
then you're going to get to meet Norio, and then I'm going to hang
out with you, watching you meet Norio [Laughs].
EM BE: Wonderful.
WIZARD: Let's have a Satsang with Em Be session.
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