Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
saying, Trip, that to look and see that there is no separate entity,
that there is no person that has a place where they start and end,
that has no limits, there is no weight, no form, you say the proof of
the universal nature of being, if I heard you correct.
TRIP: Yes.
EM BE: That's true, that's a correct statement, Trip. You're
following your reasoning very, very correctly. But let's pose
another question, the task is not proving the universal nature of
being, but it's actually to prove the limited nature of being. And so
when you look and you perceive or find limited separate doer, so
there is no evidence that there is such a person. So that, in the
absence of support, of evidence, that can be dropped and what
remains… better not to make any discourses about what remains,
okay. Because then we're just going to get into conversation and
thinking about it.
The main issue that we have is that we feel we live and we
experience our thoughts as limited and separate entities. I'm not
interested in any great discourse about the universe, or about
Truth, or about the universality of being, that does not interest me.
What really interests me is to deal with the core issue, the living
core issue that we have as human beings, whatever words you
want to say, that we are, of feeling separate and living in that
illusion of separation. So when we look, is there any evidence for
the I-thought, and we find that there is no I-thought, then we can
stop right there, we don't need to take it further and say, that
proves the universality of, of being, or of existence, or of Truth.
No, it's just it's a deconstruction of the unTruth.
TRIP: Right and very few people are willing to take that simple an
approach as sufficient. [Laughs]
EM BE: Of course.
WIZARD: Far too simple for most scholars.
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