Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
WIZARD: Yes, I'd like to cite a comment by Ramana Maharshi.
Ramana Maharshi says, "A man is running the course of his
samskaras", that's his tendencies, "When taught he is the formless
Self, the teaching affects his mind and imagination runs riot. He
feels helpless before the onrushing power. His experiences are
according to his imagination of the state, I am the Self, whatever
he may conceive it to be. Saktipat alone confers the true and right
experience. When the man is ripe for receiving instruction, and
his mind is about to sink into the heart, the instruction imparted
works in a flash, and he realizes the Self all right. Otherwise there
is always the struggle".
EM BE: Yes, right. Yeah. The end of the struggle is no doubt, the
struggle with this, is when all this ended. No matter how much
somebody can doubt you, you do not doubt your Self.
WIZARD: And that's referred to as Saktipat, that's the explosion
from being within, encapsulated in a body and mind as an Ithought
to the breaking that down and literally becoming insideout.
EM BE: Yeah. It's interesting, John, the inside-out, or the
experience that I just related was like an inside-out experience,
and it felt… it's really hard to talk about it, to really describe it, it's
not possible. But inside-out resonates, and…
WIZARD: The local aspect is missing.
EM BE: Exactly. It's like going instantaneously from the local to
the universal. Okay, even that it's… yeah, it is the collapse of the
local, and it's nothing that anyone does, it is divine doing.
WIZARD: Without any doership, and grace finding itself.
EM BE: Yes, right. Right. The doer came back just going on; the
doer came back a very, very subtle, very subtle doer. Actually it
was not a doer, it was like I got it, came up very subtlety over the
next 10, 15 years, and surfaced as the stink of enlightenment,
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