Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
class that I was audited with him, he went through the Vedas, I
don't know, at the time it was all really the Vedas, it sounded like
Chinese to me, I didn't know what he was talking about. But
somehow I liked him, there was something about him. Am I
talking too much?
WIZARD: No.
TRIP: No, we're digging it. [Laughs]
EM BE: Okay. If you need to steer the conversation somewhere
else, please do. Anyways, so there was something drawing me to
him, to his energy, the way he was. So I went through those
couple of classes about Vedas, and wrote a couple of papers for
him. Then I think second or third class, probably the third class or
so, I was again auditing and he announced that he was going to
start talking about Buddhism, and very quickly he started by
stating that according to Buddhism, the self, the ego, is not real.
And he was going on, but as soon as I heard this, it's not me who
heard them, it's as if there was something that heard, these words
went boom, right through to some core place. And time and space
stopped, and I was just, what? How could it be that the ego, the
self, is not real? Here I am, I'm here, and I’m real. What is he
talking about?
And he went on, throughout the class, I was just into this question,
and I couldn't wait for the end of the class to rush up to him and
ask him, which I did. What do you mean? What do you mean that
the ego's not real? Here I am, I'm talking to you, I mean the self is
not real, what do you mean? Here I am. And he sensed
something, he must have sensed something because he told me to
come and see him in his office, which I did, and a long relationship
started between us where I would go and sit with him. I don't
remember what other conversations were like, they were like short
conversations, we'd spend like maybe 20 minutes together, but in
every conversation it was as if he was peeling, just talking pass me
to me, passed me, the person, to the me, the presence.
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