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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
dormant, I'm not sure how to connect it to what happened next,
but at some point in time further down, a few months later, I
became interested in Eastern thought-lessness.
First I was studying science, pure science, and I was dissatisfied
with the scientific study, something was missing. I tried to
formulate to my advisers what I felt was missing, mainly that we
were, through the science, identifying various variables, and
studying their relationships, formulating a hypothesis, and
through identifying various variables, studying their relationships
in order to prove a certain theory. But I was puzzled by the biggest
of all variables, which was the observer, the scientist [Laughs]. I
remember asking this, the teacher he looked at me and said,
"What planet are you coming from?" [Laughs]
I think that probably this question, if it's posed now in
universities, technological universities, this question is a very
relevant question, but at the time it didn't resonate with my
teachers. So I felt, at some level that, okay, that’s not the
direction, there is no answer for me. I didn't even know that there
was a question really. But there was a question, there was no
formulation, there were no words around my question. It was not
the place to be, to find whatever it was that I was looking for. So I
started audited philosophy classes, there was some really, wellpublished
teachers in the philosophy department, I audited some
of their classes.
It was great at the time, I don't know how it is now, but at the time
there were free audits, you could like walk into a class and ask the
teacher to audit the class, and do that, so I did. But very quickly
the philosophy, just for me, I mean not talking about what
philosophy is for many others, but for me it was just shallow
words. It was like, an empty jar, just an echo, a constant echoing,
a lot of constant echoing, it was like echo alley. That very quickly
became clear that that's not for me, and then somehow I heard of
this fellow, John Connor, I think I mentioned him, as being I
would say my first mentor. He was teaching Eastern philosophies,
and so I audited his class. I think it was maybe the second or third
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