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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages hear a lot of those lines in the songs there’s a lot of suffering in those. CHUCK HILLIG: There was, yes. Remember, all of those people in the ‘60s, in fact all those people that you’ve ever read about in history, they all come from the void, they all come from you. They all are that. You are creating all of them being and saying and going through all of that stuff. You have to own that all. These people that are not in the ‘60s or the ‘50s, they’re not different than you at all. They are you. That is you. There’s nobody else other than that. You are the dreaming dreamer and becoming the awakened dreamer. There’s only one. Everything is quintessentially only one; there’s only one. WIZARD: There were a lot of bards in those days that were speaking through their music and their poetry that was affirming to a spiritual dispensation that was awesome at the time. And those affirmations were very powerful. I mean, Jerry Garcia’s Ripple? CHUCK HILLIG: Oh yeah, Jerry Garcia. WIZARD: Pete Townsend. CHUCK HILLIG: Bob Dylan even. WIZARD: Bob Dylan. See these are great bards in our midst. TRIP: Now that you’ve completely edified our listeners and each and every one is at the doorstep of enlightenment, you say the last step is to become detached from detachment. That was interesting. CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, just to let go of letting go. That’s maybe the roughest thing; to fall, freefall into the heart of who you are because that’s really where all of this is pointing to. The essence of who you are is love loving itself and to freefall into that – not cling 142
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages to anything, not trying to shape anything at all, but just to let go and disappear into that – that’s freedom, that is freedom. WIZARD: Just being yourself. CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, and it reminds of a great quote by Nietzsche. He said “And those who are seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.” [Laughter] Well, you guys can definitely hear the music. I’m so happy to say that. TRIP: It’s been a joy reading your work, getting to know you. I hope we get to cross frozen light paths sometime here in the next, hopefully, couple of months. CHUCK: There’s only One. 143
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WIZARD: Be still. Conversations wit
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WIZARD: Amen. Conversations with Av
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