Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
hear a lot of those lines in the songs there’s a lot of suffering in
those.
CHUCK HILLIG: There was, yes. Remember, all of those people
in the ‘60s, in fact all those people that you’ve ever read about in
history, they all come from the void, they all come from you. They
all are that. You are creating all of them being and saying and
going through all of that stuff. You have to own that all. These
people that are not in the ‘60s or the ‘50s, they’re not different
than you at all. They are you. That is you. There’s nobody else
other than that. You are the dreaming dreamer and becoming the
awakened dreamer. There’s only one. Everything is
quintessentially only one; there’s only one.
WIZARD: There were a lot of bards in those days that were
speaking through their music and their poetry that was affirming
to a spiritual dispensation that was awesome at the time. And
those affirmations were very powerful. I mean, Jerry Garcia’s
Ripple?
CHUCK HILLIG: Oh yeah, Jerry Garcia.
WIZARD: Pete Townsend.
CHUCK HILLIG: Bob Dylan even.
WIZARD: Bob Dylan. See these are great bards in our midst.
TRIP: Now that you’ve completely edified our listeners and each
and every one is at the doorstep of enlightenment, you say the last
step is to become detached from detachment. That was
interesting.
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, just to let go of letting go. That’s maybe the
roughest thing; to fall, freefall into the heart of who you are
because that’s really where all of this is pointing to. The essence of
who you are is love loving itself and to freefall into that – not cling
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