Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
you all the time. There’s nothing missing. There’s not some more
consciousness around the corner or down the block. This is it,
what you’re experiencing is 100% of consciousness. That’s it; it’s
your dream and that’s what you need to own. Own it.
TRIP: For sure. Another nugget of yours here; you say “The
challenge in life is not to get high. The challenge in life is to be
high.” I’m guessing, you may be like the Wizard and I, have had
more than your fair share. [Laughing]
CHUCK HILLIG: Oh, of course, so the story goes.
TRIP: Oh, yes, we’ve have fistfuls of getting high over here. We
could light up a city block with purple haze…
WIZARD: I just like my green tea, man.
TRIP: One thing I wanted to say though is the higher that you
become the less interested in those old highs you become. For
example, we had a guest on our show, the Medicine Hunter, Chris
Kilham who’s the master Ayahuasca dude. He goes down there
and he spends time in the rainforest with the shaman and they
cook up the primo Ayahuasca. Not only Chris, but the entire
village goes off into Never-Never Land. It’s a wild scene. It’s the
moonlight and arriving on the ground and people are becoming
snakes and eagles are coming down out of the trees and sitting
their shoulders and they’re eating chunks of consciousness and
time is dripping like a watch coming off their mouth into gobs on
the ground. It’s a wild scene, but as appealing as that would have
been, I would have been jumping right into that bad boy, but I feel
now that I have that now in the waking state; so I’m less attracted
to that. I think that’s true, I think that’s a gift of getting older.
Don’t you think?
WIZARD: Well, younger we wait for the bus. Here comes the bus
and we want to get off. As we get older we’re off.
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