Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
dream, it’s your dream. You are the dreaming dreamer, own it all.
Love it all, embrace it all.
TRIP: On a tangential path with that point is you say your
spiritual path actually chooses you; your path chooses you and
sooner or later its sacred labyrinth will lead you inexorably directly
into the very heart of who you are.
WIZARD: That’s what happened to me.
TRIP: Let me ask you, there were one or two little things in your
work that I didn’t quite get on the first reading. You say “Who am
I?” And “How can I make more money?” are really the same
question at very different levels. What do you mean by that?
CHUCK HILLIG: Well, there’s only one question and that is,
“Why, what, who?” All of those questions, any question you have
is really the same question, whether it’s I want to make more
money or how can I do this or who am I; there’s only one
question. And until you get beyond that need or desire on your
part to even ask questions can you just sit in the middle of not
asking questions at all. Even getting beyond the “who am I
question”. Certainly getting beyond the how can I make more
money question. When you get to a place where there’s no desire
to go away from what is, thinking that what isn’t –like the answer
that you want to know – will somehow satisfy you. It’s all the
same. You’re already there. There’s nothing for you to know,
there’s nothing for you to not know. Any question will lead you
away from that because the answer wants to say, “Oh, no.” The
Truth of where you want to go is just around the next corner. But,
if the Truth is always just around the next corner, all you’re going
to be recognizing, all you’re going to be noticing would be more
corners. There’s always going to be another layer of the onion to
unpeel. There has to come a time when you just stop; just come to
a full stop and just be with what is. No more questions, no more
searching; just being with this. And this, look around, just know if
you’re listening in your car in our in the restroom that is enough,
that is fully present. Consciousness is always 100% present for
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