Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
life. And it’s this, you say “You can’t go to heaven unless you’re
also willing to go to hell”…
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, I find that to be true in my own life,
certainly in my story of how that was because way back in my latetwenties
when my whole marriage fell apart, I just crashed and
burned. I didn’t know what I wanted to do; I’d been teaching at a
university in Pennsylvania and within the space of about a week
and a half, I lost everything. I lost the house and my position, I
lost all my possessions, my kids, my marriage; everything was
taken away from me. My analogy that I use to describe that is,
we’ve all gone to museums or to art galleries and we see these
great big tapestries and you go right up next to the tapestry about
two inches with your nose and you open your eyes and you see a
lot of jumbled colours and lines, but nothing makes sense. But
then if you step back into a gallery, turn around and look back at
that very place that had been so confusing to you, suddenly you
see how those little square inches plays out in the great tapestry of
your life.
You say, “Oh, now I understand that was really part of this and
that was connected to that.” And it becomes like a mosaic. But
when you’re really into it and right in the middle of your mess, in
the center of your chaos, it’s really difficult to get that clear. So
this is where trust comes in. No matter what’s going on in your
life, no matter what’s unfolding or unravelling, sit in the middle of
that say “Yes, I’m just going to trust that whatever is showing up is
there for my own edifications, it’s there for my own growth.”
Because absolutely everything that you need in order to “wake up”
is always 100% present for you right here, right Now. Nothing,
nothing is ever missing.
WIZARD: The every little, tiniest little subtle anything in the mix
is a part of the masterpiece.
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, and it is right there for you and you are
creating this. You need to own your own dream. Own your own
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