Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
sign behind him and I remember marvelling to myself that the
American people had actually literally tossed that buffoon the keys
to an aircraft carrier; what I’m saying? I just had this thought of
the entire frat boy scene from down in the basement of his college
up there laughing and drinking and driving that thing around and
banging it off of stuff and everything. I-thought to myself at the
time, how could there such a miscarriage of universal justice? But
then I realize now that the aircraft carrier was just a bobble. You
and I and the Wizard and so many of our listeners have been
blessed with an awakening into what you call the source of who we
are. It’s like we’ve been thrown the keys to the entire universe.
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, G.W. and all of those people; call them
rascals, call them whatever, they all have their origin within you,
they all come up, you are the source of all of the rascals; you are
the source of all the great spiritual teachers and of all of their great
spiritual teachings. You wrote the Upanishads, you wrote the
Bible, you wrote the Torah, you wrote the Bhagavad-Gita, you are
sourcing Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj and Christ
and Buddha; all of them find their origin within you. You’ve
created them as they are to remind you from time to time that
you’re really only pretending this all. That you’re really having a
very elaborate dream, but you are the dreaming dreamer.
To become the awakened dreamer, you get to a place where you’re
not asking anymore questions, when you’ve stopped searching,
when you’ve called off the search and when you just say yes to
what is; then you’re the awakened dreamer because you’re not
going to be awakening from the dream as much as you’re going to
be awakening to the dream–very different. Just like lucid
dreaming. In lucid dreaming you awaken to the idea that, “Oh,
I’m just having a dream.” That’s what enlightenment is.
WIZARD: That’s when it gets fun.
CHUCK HILLIG: Oh, yes, then you’re having fun with it.
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