Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
they come out of the void and then you flip the page and there’s
Hitler and Pôl Pot and Stalin coming out of the same place. Void
produces all of it, from the greatest heroes to the greatest villains.
And the author, an author doesn’t hate his villains and loves his
heroes. The author, the cosmic author needs the villains in order
to help provide an opportunity for the heroes to act heroically. We
all need that. It’s part of the great drama. Without the villains the
heroes are like unemployed heroes; they need to have some
struggle and that’s the drama, and that’s what the cosmos loves to
do.
WIZARD: I appreciate all the costumes. I’m not a uniform guy. I
like the kings and the beggars.
CHUCK HILLIG: There you go, I do too. They come from the
same source.
WIZARD: Yes.
TRIP: One of the things that you offer up in your book, for those
who just can’t wrap their heads around how that mayhem could be
okay, you’ve got a trick. You say, “Be an appreciative audience to
whatever shows up.”
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, that’s a very important concept.
TRIP: You say “If you go to war with life, life goes to war with you,
so take yes as the default position.” This is a very core element of
your teaching. Do you want to expound on that a bit?
CHUCK HILLIG: Yes, I’ve come to really embrace the fact that,
‘yes’ needs to be the default position. Not yes, okay, with smacks
of resignation and no tolerance and no, no, not at all. An
enthusiastic, filled with life gusto-exuberant thing of “Yes! I just
love life exactly the way that it is.” So you say yes to your yeses,
you say yes to your no’s. You don’t resist anything. You don’t even
resist your resistances. The last thing that you say to yourself,
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