Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
change it all, really move it all? It can’t. You are that, you are
what you are seeking; you are who you are looking for.
TRIP: Exactly. I got to tell you, you’re book, Seeds for the Soul, I
highly recommend people go out and get Seeds for the Soul
because it just speaks to you on every page and every page stands
alone and every sentence stands alone and it’s just packed full of
amazing wisdom. One of the things that you say and that spoke to
me was that a person’s spiritual life can’t begin until they give up
their attachment to the telling of their past story over and over
again about this or that that happened to them.
I mean, how true that is and it’s pretty much – have you noticed
when you go to a conventional cocktail party or something like
that – that’s what human beings want to do all the time is to recite
their stories.
WIZARD: The storyline paradigm.
TRIP: All day long ?
CHUCK HILLIG: They become their story, but the way through it
is just to let go of that telling and that great desire to tell it about
how they are right and how other people have wronged them in
some way. So they live in the past and with that it takes them
away from this present moment which is really all that there is.
The past doesn’t live into the present and the present doesn’t move
into the future. This moment is really all that there is. But if
they’re talking about the past, they’re talking about something that
is not; that is not present, that is not real. This moment is real.
This is it.
WIZARD: Right on.
TRIP: Right on, so we’re going to immediately break that rule.
[Laughter] Because we know that rules are made to be broken
because I think that your moment of awakening back in 1969 that
happened around that table, that you couldn’t make imperfect and
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