Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
CHUCK HILLIG: I think it is and that’s always been what my
focus is; I like to take like a great Truth that separation is illusory
and to distil that down into just a few key words, a few key
concepts that are graspable. People have less resistance to all of
the preponderance of words that they’ve been subjected to. So
many of your listeners I’m sure have read all these books and all
the chapters, and gosh, there’s just so much stuff there. I’m less
interested in giving them new content. I’m more interested in
seeing if they’re willing to hold the content of what they know in a
different context, because when you change how you’re looking at
things, the things that you’re looking at will begin to change also.
So the contextual shift, that’s what I’m after. Not so much giving
them more stuff to prod out at the next cocktail party or the next
metaphysical gathering saying, wow, I learned this and now I can
do that and now I meditate over here. No, no, no, I’m more
interested in changing people’s context of how they see themselves
in the world in general and themselves in their heart of hearts in
particular.
TRIP: An interesting thing that you did as a writer, that I don’t
think I have seen before, which is how you took a little leap of
Faith in that book, Looking For God, where you said what the heck
and you put a hole in the middle of the book and constantly used
the wordless hole to make your point in the book; that was pretty
cool.
CHUCK HILLIG: Thank you. I had gotten to a place where I said,
“Well, words can just go so far. Sooner or later they’re going have
to go into the void, into this nothingness, into the emptiness.” So I
wrote this book and for the people who are not familiar with it, it
is actually a picture of the Sistine Chapel that I’m sure everybody
is familiar with, the old picture of God the Father and Adam;
they’re touching index fingers. Well, we digitally separated that
about an inch and then drilled a one-inch hole between their index
fingers so that both of them are pointing to the void. The name of
the book is Looking for God: Seeing the Whole – and that’s
spelled w-h-o-l-e – the Whole in One. And as you indicated, Trip,
all of the pages are pointing to that (w) hole and encouraging
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